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Julie Ann Greif (Schmidt)'s avatar

This is a fantastic start to a needed discussion worldwide. Thank you for your thoughtful insights. It has made me ponder greatly.

Miles O'Neal's avatar

I grew up in a time when that phrase was transitioning from the old meaning to the new. I recall hearing it used both ways as a kid. The new meaning made no sense to me as I understood the old meaning (and as a kid, I tried to literally do this!) My meager "successes" were inevitably shot down with "That's jumping, not pulling yourself up". Using bars, ropes, etc.didn't count, either. I could ask for or accept assistance, I could use other means, but if I was merely trying to pull myself up by the bootstraps, I was truly stuck to the same old spot. Unless I fell over, which also didn't help unless I was ready to simply give up.

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